You might have multiple issues at the same time. MMC and USB/HDD
The MMC seems fixed, although there have been 3x kernel patches/updates a 1 week, quick check shows it is about not-stable enough queuing. Re-check for yourself if you are affected or not. As I indicated, I don't/won't run a Pi4/5 from SD-card, as I know this will keep me busy with problems that can easily be avoided. Big 'surprise' that RPL seems to start selling their own branded SD-cards, not my game.
Then the USB+HDD chain maybe another needle-in-a-haystack bug w.r.t. USB3. It is not now the poor implementation around the VIA chip in Pi4, but another new? one in RP1 in Pi5. Only 1 year on the market. To compare, I can now say that after 10 years Intel H87 Core-i7 ASUS system, no strange effects anymore and I could remove my extra Renesas 2-port USB3.
I had about 10 URLs pointing to RPi4 USB3 issues, most never resolved/closed, but I worked around as stated earlier.
The resets w.r.t. HDD are a bad sign anyhow, assuming they don't come from USB, they might come from the HDD as it seems it is an SMR device controlled one. You can check if I am right e.g. see https://goughlui.com/the-hard-disk-corn ... -5tb-2015/
Anyhow, I have an 8T variant that is SMR and this one has done countless resets (SATA3 connected on Intel Bboard or SATA2 on AMD Bobcat) Was unusable in Linux before kernel4.5 until a Seagate engineer posted a comprehensive patch-set. Now still problematic, but I limit the rate to 100Mbps, use BTRFS so I have a sort of control over it.
I wanted 'cheap' with that ST8000 of mine, but what a disaster. Although I could have known, it was at least in the spec that it is SMR.
If it is your hobby, you can of course take the time and see if you can get it stable. Otherwise, SATA connect that HDD to an old Intel board really for cold storage. That is what I do, it runs max 24 hours, otherwise no cables/power connected for weeks/months. An old x86_64 is more or less for free. As it is 3.5inch HDD, the low power ARM/Pi5 makes little sense, also USB3 maybe not as SMR needs internal rewrites which make average transfer less than USB2 speeds, so any old cheap board with USB2 might also be OK. I have several 21 Euro Armv7 boards, 1x USB2, 1x 100Mbps RJ45, would be perfect, although not for me as not 64-bit. But for Ext4 fine.
The MMC seems fixed, although there have been 3x kernel patches/updates a 1 week, quick check shows it is about not-stable enough queuing. Re-check for yourself if you are affected or not. As I indicated, I don't/won't run a Pi4/5 from SD-card, as I know this will keep me busy with problems that can easily be avoided. Big 'surprise' that RPL seems to start selling their own branded SD-cards, not my game.
Then the USB+HDD chain maybe another needle-in-a-haystack bug w.r.t. USB3. It is not now the poor implementation around the VIA chip in Pi4, but another new? one in RP1 in Pi5. Only 1 year on the market. To compare, I can now say that after 10 years Intel H87 Core-i7 ASUS system, no strange effects anymore and I could remove my extra Renesas 2-port USB3.
I had about 10 URLs pointing to RPi4 USB3 issues, most never resolved/closed, but I worked around as stated earlier.
The resets w.r.t. HDD are a bad sign anyhow, assuming they don't come from USB, they might come from the HDD as it seems it is an SMR device controlled one. You can check if I am right e.g. see https://goughlui.com/the-hard-disk-corn ... -5tb-2015/
Anyhow, I have an 8T variant that is SMR and this one has done countless resets (SATA3 connected on Intel Bboard or SATA2 on AMD Bobcat) Was unusable in Linux before kernel4.5 until a Seagate engineer posted a comprehensive patch-set. Now still problematic, but I limit the rate to 100Mbps, use BTRFS so I have a sort of control over it.
I wanted 'cheap' with that ST8000 of mine, but what a disaster. Although I could have known, it was at least in the spec that it is SMR.
If it is your hobby, you can of course take the time and see if you can get it stable. Otherwise, SATA connect that HDD to an old Intel board really for cold storage. That is what I do, it runs max 24 hours, otherwise no cables/power connected for weeks/months. An old x86_64 is more or less for free. As it is 3.5inch HDD, the low power ARM/Pi5 makes little sense, also USB3 maybe not as SMR needs internal rewrites which make average transfer less than USB2 speeds, so any old cheap board with USB2 might also be OK. I have several 21 Euro Armv7 boards, 1x USB2, 1x 100Mbps RJ45, would be perfect, although not for me as not 64-bit. But for Ext4 fine.
Statistics: Posted by redvli — Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:08 am